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John C Thalmann

Military

Shot down 27 September 1943 in B-17 #4230454 'Reluctant Dragon. ' Killed in Action (KIA).

John Thalman often flew the Thunderbird Aircraft, He flew it the day before his last mission in 42-30454

Service

People

  • John Lilly

    Military | Second Lieutenant | Navigator | 94th Bomb Group
    Shot down 27 September 1943 in B-17 #4230454 'Reluctant Dragon. ' Prisoner of War (POW).

  • Wendell Morris

    Military | Flight Officer | Co-Pilot | 94th Bomb Group
    Shot down 27 September 1943 in B-17 #4230454 'Reluctant Dragon. ' Prisoner of War (POW). POW

  • John White

    Military | Second Lieutenant | Bombardier | 94th Bomb Group
    Shot down 27 September 1943 in B-17 #4230454 'Reluctant Dragon. ' Prisoner of War (POW). POW

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Units served with

  • 94th Bomb Group

    94th Bomb Group

    Group
    Activated 15 June 1942 at MacDill Field, Florida. Initial organization and training at Pendleton Field, Oregon on 29 June 1942. Primary flight training at Davis-Monthan Field in Arizona from 28 Aug. 42 to 31 Oct. 42; then at Biggs Field, El Paso, Texas...

  • 333rd Bomb Squadron

    333rd Bomb Squadron

    Squadron
    Part of 94th Bomb Group.

Aircraft

  • 42-30453 Thunderbird

    B-17 Flying Fortress
    Delivered Cheyenne 3/6/43; Rapid City 15/6/43; Geiger 22/6/43; Gr Isle 28/6/43; Dow Fd 14/7/43; Assigned 333BS/94BG [TS-K] Rougham 13/7/43; Missing in Action Regensburg 17/8/43 with Roy Davison, Co-pilot: Stan Chichester, Navigator: Alden Faudie,...

  • 42-30454

    B-17 Flying Fortress
    Delivered Cheyenne 3/6/43; Smoky Hill 14/6/43; Rapid City 19/6/43; Geiger 22/6/43; Smoky Hill 23/6/43; Dow Fd 5/7/43; Assigned 333BS/94BG [TS-B] Rougham 7/7/43; Missing in Action Emden 9/27/43 with Pilot: John Thalman (Killed in Action); Co-pilot:...

Missions

  • VIII Bomber Command 58

    17 May 1943
    VIII Bomber Command launches another operation against German U-Boat facilities with three elements. The first element is a formation of 100 B-17s despatched from: 91BG (24); 92BG (10); 303BG (21); 305BG (21) and 306BG (24) to attack the German U-Boat...

  • VIII Bomber Command 104

    27 September 1943
    The industrial areas of Emden, Germany are the targets for this two-element mission. The first element is a combined force of 141 B-17s despatched from 3rd Bomb Division and include the 94BG (19); 95BG (22); 96BG (21); 100BG (20); 385BG (18); 399BG (20...

Associated Place

  • Bury St Edmunds

    Military site : airfield
    The airfield was purpose-built for American bomb groups and as such had a 2,000 yard main runway that lain in concrete with a tarred and wood-chipped surface. The scale of bases such as this meant that very often the technical, administrative and...

Events

Event Location Date
Born
Died 27 September 1943

Engine on fire over Emden Germany, tried to dive to blow it out. All jumped out except Chris, he tried to land the AC and was killed

Buried Wittmund Garrison Cemetery 27 September 1943

Buried at Wittmund Garrison Cemetery in Grave 129

Revisions

Date Contributor Update
27 May 2019 20:33:59 dlilly Changes to mission associations
Sources

From Missing AC Report 733

Date Contributor Update
27 May 2019 20:00:54 dlilly Changes to events
Sources

hand written notes from the Airforce records

Date Contributor Update
27 May 2019 19:57:10 dlilly Changes to events
Sources

Story told to me from my father John Lilly who was the bombardier on the mission

Date Contributor Update
27 May 2019 19:55:10 dlilly Changes to service number
Sources

from action report of last mission

Date Contributor Update
23 April 2017 05:08:01 dlilly Changes to media associations
Sources

david v lilly 4-22-2017

Date Contributor Update
23 April 2017 04:58:13 dlilly Changes to nickname, person associations, place associations, aircraft associations and mission associations
Sources

david v lilly 4-22-2017

Date Contributor Update
27 September 2014 18:15:48 AAM AAM ingest
Sources

Drawn from the records of the National Museum of the Mighty Eighth Air Force, Savannah, Georgia / MACR 733

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